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right we got mr. Dave Davis here who's

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all grown up now who was a pupil at the

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school when this incident occurred so

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he's gonna come across right someone who

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followed this case over the last 40

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years might realize and identified me

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from having given numerous interviews

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over the years despite these interviews

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I've never actually done any public

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speaking on on the subject so I hope

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you'll be with me you know if I start

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boarding you just books just start

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throwing things and I resent the

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implication that I've grown up but 4th

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February 1977 anybody who's in the area

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yesterday will appreciate the weather

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that we had on a particular day it was

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abysmal never be in one who's been a

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great lover of being cold and wet I

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wasn't particularly I wasn't out that

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day with the rest of the children while

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they were playing football I much

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prepared to stay in the classroom read

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in doing my own work throughout the day

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the children will be coming in from the

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playground during break times and

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reporting that they've seen something

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strange in me in the play field

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surrounding the school I've always been

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a natural-born skeptic I don't do belief

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systems I don't believe in things I even

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know what I don't know simple as that

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and one thing that I was pretty

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at the time was the flying sources

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didn't exist at a long fascination with

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science fiction

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deals with humanity's place in the

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future etc and nothing to do with

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spaceships coming from Mars and invade

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in nothing's like that so the other

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natural-born skeptic that I was at the

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end of the day I decided that I was

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going to debunk this once and for all

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talking nonsense so at the end of the

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day and the final bell went I walked to

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the top playing field which you'll see

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when you go there later and there was

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absolutely nothing in sight it was

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drizzling like mad wind horrible but

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despite this and despite the fact that

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it was a bit of a quagmire I thought I

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wasn't going to get this debunked

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properly unless I actually got to the

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the location with the children and said

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they'd seen something so despite it

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being a little bit against the school

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rules I thought I'd make my way over the

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fence perimeter of the school and cross

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a small street well I've only managed to

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get my leg over when I've suddenly drawn

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to a large object which is appeared from

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behind a group of trees which is still

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there about 45 feet long silver an

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expression I didn't use at the time

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because it wasn't in my vocabulary

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but the silvery the silver finish had a

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pearlescent sort of feel to it it was

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almost difficult to focus on but not a

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sort of mother-of-pearl mother-of-pearl

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effect it had a central dome that

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covered the top

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they're of the vehicle and a read I

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described it at the time as a flashing

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light now again not good that wasn't in

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my vocabulary at the same time and I'll

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correct that now I would say there's

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pulsating more than more than flashing

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rather than a flash like you'd see on an

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emergency vehicle it was more sort of a

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very slow that's warm

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obviously complete what I saw on the

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sighting of the lasted for the matter of

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about 10 seconds at the very most and

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the object virtually motionless but it

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appeared to be given a slight tug in

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motion away from the trees and then went

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behind the tree trees again now for some

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reason my natural curiosity did let me

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point out that this time there's no fear

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at all in the sight in it was pure

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amazement of this thing runs in front of

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me but one thing I've never been able to

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explain since and it's brought to me

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it's more important than the actual

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sight in itself to I mean five to 10

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seconds and sight in its memorable but

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there's also a psychological aspect as

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well because I found myself running away

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from where I've seen it as I said

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there's no fear at all and to this day I

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can't explain why I felt the urge to run

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away but I the speed at which I moved it

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was almost as if my life depended on

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that and I keep thinking about this time

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and time again over the last 40 years

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and the other thing I can think of is

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that some sort of suggestion was put

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there that I had to get away anyway I

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got in the taxi that we

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- takes it on from skill and got home

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mama they realized I was very agitated I

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think I think she described described it

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more as frightened but it wasn't it

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wasn't frightened it was literally

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agitated with what I'd say and the fact

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that I've had my world turned up on it

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on its end because to me these things

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didn't exist Randall Jones people you

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mentioned in the talk Brandon Jones pew

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had recently retired as the local vet

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for the area living on a farm we've been

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very well at least my mother did so she

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got in touch with him knowing the

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interest that that he had in UFOs

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so Randall appeared quite quickly and

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later on that night we came back down to

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the school probably about 6 or 7 o'clock

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and evening but by that time it was

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totally impossible to get where we'd

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seen it is a quagmire and the light had

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gone completely so we came down the

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following morning with a reporter from

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the Western Telegraph called Hugh

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Turnbull and managed to get to the spot

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where with the object of the pig there's

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no evidence that any other vehicle had

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been involved like I said the area was

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an absolute quagmire and subsequent

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investigations with Welsh water or well

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no sewage treatment was just further up

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the up the hill and the local farmers

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revealed that no vehicles of any type of

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been in May in that area on the day or

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from any time in previous to that day so

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a little bit a little bit further

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investigation revealed birds near the

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site the only physical evidence which

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could be taken that there was

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something to what we had seen was that a

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recently erected and repaired telegraph

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pole the cross-section which has been

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product dated only a few days earlier

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had been not to angle like that from

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then it just went crazy the school

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erupted into a media circus the the

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likes of which amber tree was probably

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never seen its it's certainly a

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headmaster at Sydney never seen anything

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like it because he got to the point in

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the amber is that the phone off the hook

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decided to put an end to this once and

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for all but in that time we'd we'd

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attracted media attention all around the

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world there were even rumors of going

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over to the states to film a documentary

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which of course never transpired now 40

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years on over over the last 40 years

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I've always been referred to as the boys

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and small dysplasia

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I have never at any time in the last 40

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years not then not now ever claimed that

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oscillation I saw a UFO it was a flying

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object

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it was unidentified that's simple as

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that if there is a terrestrial

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terrestrial explanation for this UFO I'm

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quite willing to accept that

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but after 14 years of research and

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thousands of pounds spent on literature

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various other work I am still none the

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wiser to what we saw I could go into the

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into the little details of how the

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theories of how these crafts are powered

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how they fly but with regards to the

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so I don't want to sensational eyes

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things at all and I never have

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sensational eyes you've probably you've

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probably seen the reports that the

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children made at the time now there's

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been a few comments that the pictures

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weren't all identical in all but you

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have to accept as well the children are

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notoriously unreliable witnesses if you

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if children words with if charmander

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what small child words with mr. Klein a

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simple robbery by the time the police

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get doing that to interview them

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afterwards you'll of the robbers and

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strike jumpers wearing masks and

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carrying guns so they're them certainly

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possibly combined with or artistic

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talent there was also certainly an

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element of understandable juvenile

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elaboration that some of the accounts

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I'll leave it to you not to to work that

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for yourselves when you think that

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multiplicative but what you have to

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remember is don't look at the

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differences between the pictures look at

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the similarities give them the fact that

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14 children were all put into exam

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situations with no chance of

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collaborating on a story or a novel or

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on the description whatsoever

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we have the weekend since the site in

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before Monday what we did when we make

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these pictures and descriptions but this

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was a time when there's no Skype there's

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no Facebook mobile phones having come

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along and if you wanted that used to

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have sprung they even have to have a

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damn good reason for your parents and

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even then they were year wigging on

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watching you say to your friends so

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after we did the duck out of the pages

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and the descriptions the headmaster at

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school Ralph Llewellyn a lovely very

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very strength no-nonsense man I suppose

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if you would if you would live

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a Victorian teacher a Victorian

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headmaster ruff Llewellyn would fit the

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bill perfectly quite stressful fantastic

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warm sense of humor as well now he had

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been skeptical all along but the moment

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that he saw the pictures and read the

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descriptions his attitude change he

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never accepted birds what we saw was a

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UFO because he didn't want to but he did

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accept that the children had seen

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something out of the ordinary but they

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couldn't explain the other thing books

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have got to accept is that a lot of

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suggestions that we made as I said about

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tankers wealth water tankers

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agricultural equipment most the children

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who attended school in broad haven can

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provide the cultural backgrounds myself

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included any piece of agricultural

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equipment silage equipment tankers we'd

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have recognized like a short there there

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was no there's no possibility that it

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could have been anything like that at

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all also the fact that sewage hangers

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don't tend to hire a 50 feet off the

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ground the other suggestion was that it

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might possibly have been a helicopter or

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I think I've heard a Harrier Jump Jet

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mentioned in recent days as well well

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besides the noise that a helicopter in

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our area John Kerr obviously makes when

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taking off a man there we have broadly

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on the doorstep and the school had a

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very good relationship with poverty

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itself in fact I've been two sets of

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encyclopedias that we had in in the

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school the Encyclopedia Britannica which

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was donated by RAF broad day and we also

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had a full sentence like

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americana which was donated from the US

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Naval facility so we had a close

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relationship in the base and all the

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children we were so familiar with

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practically every NATO aircraft in the

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sky we were so used to Falcon bombers

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flying overhead light men's effort every

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type of military hardware that you could

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imagine that we we couldn't name it

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immediately

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Peter Padgett who wrote the Welsh

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triangle actually Spectre states in his

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book that he arrived with a little bit

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of skepticism in his mind on whether we

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identified it properly however when he

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arrived he had a very very nice sports

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car not I've got another common one and

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the fact that we identified it

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immediately as a Lotus Europa

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immediately made in think these kids

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know what they what they say the local

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community have been very supportive I

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will say that there's a lot of

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skepticism in the area and possibly that

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there possibly stir this and it's not

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helped in recent times by the amount of

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nonsense that's on the internet about

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the UFO subject so and the moment people

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think of the word UFO instantly they

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think I mean which isn't what is about

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it couldn't been an alien I don't know I

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honestly can't give you any further

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information at this day on that subject

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now I'm gonna stop waffling now because

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I've actually reached pretty much the

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point of what I want to do explain so if

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emma nor anybody else would like to any

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anything you'd like to be like that that

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whatever I'll do some Q&A session but

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that that's my counterpart as far as I

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can tell you and like I said I'm not

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used to public speaking so I hope we

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don't mind the posture crack it up now

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so I let pass the mic back and hopefully

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if you have got any questions that I

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haven't covered and I'll be quite happy